[csaa-forum] In praise of editing & HERDC/ERA criteria

matthew haigh haighmatthew at yahoo.com.au
Thu Mar 3 17:17:38 CST 2011

Hear hear. Who gives a stuff? Do what one wants to.
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From: Gerard  Goggin <gerard.goggin at sydney.edu.au>
To: CSAA Forum <csaa-forum at lists.cdu.edu.au>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 4:08:05 AM
Subject: [csaa-forum] In praise of editing & HERDC/ERA criteria

Hi Mark, Anna, Jon, and others

As a former/reformed journal editor, I can’t resist adding ‘hear, hear’ to the 
points you’ve made.

Hard to see what the answers are – or rather pat formula — to provide to 
institutions (though it is recognized to some extent in some workload systems). 

The paradox is plain: editorial work, reviewing, curating, and translation that 
journals and collections involve is critical to how research is defined and 
evaluated; but it remains remarkably invisible to reward systems (even if it 
garners esteem).

Still lots of fun, though — as well as intellectually and culturally 


Gerard Goggin

On 3/03/11 1:41 PM, "Mark Gibson" <mark.gibson at monash.edu> wrote:

Thanks again Anna. One section particularly caught my eye:
>“Some CELJ editors report that it is increasingly difficult to locate 
>appropriate readers for peer review, in some measure because our academic 
>culture does not reward scholars for so doing. Junior scholars report that their 
>administrative heads advise them not to undertake peer reviews or even book 
>reviews except for the most prestigious journals. Such work is considered 'mere 
>service' and (often like journal editing) erased as a significant part of one's 
>professional research or teaching.”
>So it’s not just HERDC and ERA. It’s emerging as an issue in North America too.
>On 3/03/11 1:08 PM, "Anna Poletti (Arts)" <anna.poletti at monash.edu> wrote:
>Just as a follow up to yesterday's discussion, here is comment from then 
>president of the Council of Editors of Learned Journals on journal rankings made 
>in 2009
>>Best wishes

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