Erratum: [csaa-forum] Re: ERA rankings

[Ariel Heryanto]

Oops, sorry. Of course I meant to write "you are NOT the first or only . 
. ."

Ariel Heryanto said the following on 7/07/2008 3:30 PM:
> Hi Jon (and other members):
>
> You are the first or only person to have such reaction. Consultation 
> Paper <http://www.arc.gov.au/pdf/ERA_ConsultationPaper.pdf> (ERA, June 
> 2008) reads: "ERA will not determine the allocation of research block 
> grants." (p. 6). If you have not, you  may like to  see the  entire 
> paper hyperlinked above.
>
> Best,
> Ariel
>
> Jon Stratton said the following on 7/07/2008 3:01 PM:
>>  
>>    Thanks for this, Ariel. <ponder>.  Ranking journals immediately 
>> opens the way for claims about the quality of a person's research 
>> dependent on what journals they publish in.  I find it hard to 
>> believe that, if it were found that the researchers in university x 
>> published predominantly in journals classified as C as compared to 
>> researchers in university y who published predominantly in journals 
>> classifed as A* and A, that a different valuation would be made about 
>> the quality of research at university x as compared to university y.  
>> More, I find it hard to believe that the university administrators in 
>> university x would not start putting pressure on their researchers to 
>> publish in journals that are ranked higher because they would expect 
>> that, at some point, first prestige then funding would become 
>> issues.  Which makes me wonder, if Krishna is right, why she thinks 
>> this exercise is being perpetrated on us!
>> cheers,
>> Jon
>>
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>> *Sent:* Mon 7/07/2008 12:52 PM
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>> *Subject:* [csaa-forum] Re: ERA rankings
>>
>> Dear All:
>>
>> Just in case useful. Last week at the ASAA Conference in Melbourne, I
>> attended a special session on ERA, where Krishna Sen, Executive
>> (Director of Humanities and Creative Arts, Australian Research Council)
>> spoke. Two things that she emphasised more than once were (a) that this
>> whole ERA excerise will not consider "impact", and (b) it will not in
>> any way be connected to funding to universities (thus implying that no
>> one in any immediate and material terms will be penalised for being
>> ranked low). She also said, with some pride, these are two things that
>> distinguish ERA from RQF.
>>
>> Ariel
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