[csaa-forum] who is meatloaf

[John Scannell]

Oh my...this debate is taking on a hypertextual quality...
It may last us until the next election...
Having a jolly good laugh (to keep from crying)
John

Indigo Williams Willing wrote:

>Charlotte and other non-meatloafers,
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>Meatloaf was in a DVD called 'Fightclub' starring Brad Pitt and Edward
>Norton.  Meatloaf was the large sized white male actor with whom Edward
>Norton's character cried on his chest at a 'man meeting'.  There was also
>someone, under 26 years old, in the first series of Australian Idol who was
>a fan of Meatloaf's music (dramatic hard rock-opera?) and not a bad
>look-a-like.  Interestingly, at the beginning of  'Fightclub', Ed Norton's
>character is obsessed with Ikea catalogue shopping for his urban apartment.
>The change-ka-bang part in the narrative occurs when his apartment full of
>Ikea furniture explodes and he is forced to move into a rundown and empty
>house (where fight clubs are soon held and meatloaf comes to visit).  The
>sad message at play here is that buying furniture is not hetero/manly? Or
>consumer-culture is bad?  There's a few papers in there I'm sure.
>
>Meanwhile to the youth vote, I did catch an Insight program on SBS TV
>Australia that featured people under 25 and asked them about their views on
>the  near eve of the election. Vibewire did an excellent job btw.
>Anti-globalisation as in Naomi Klein style seemed to be less an issue in the
>audience than the war in Iraq, refugees, university fees and apprentiship
>awards and the environment. It would have been interesting to have seen some
>teen parents plus the 20 somethings who look after relatives to hear their
>views on Medicare, childcare etc.  But if the Insight people are right,
>young adults only make up 20% of the vote?
>
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>Indigo Williams Willing (Thuy Thi Diep Huynh)
>Post-Grad Student, Sociology - current (UQ).
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "charlotte" <lottec at orcon.net.nz>
>To: "CSAA discussion list" <csaa-forum at darlin.cdu.edu.au>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [csaa-forum] polling booth participant observation 101
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>>hi all
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>>as one of (i presume) the younger members of this mailing list, i feel
>>compelled to de-lurk by this kind of lazy youth-bashing. here's a "true
>>yoof" perspective (otherwise entitled, "who or what is meatloaf?" *):
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>>my experience, both as a young person and working in tertiary education
>>with other young people has not been that we as a generation are
>>'bored' with politics. many of the young people who i have encountered
>>have grown up in a world that encouraged them to be environmentally
>>conscious, interested in engaging with people from different cultures,
>>and deeply concerned with injustices both locally and internationally.
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