[csaa-forum] ERA rankings

Mon Jul 7 13:51:56 CST 2008

  Hi Andrew,
    Thank you for reminding us of this iniquitous decision.  Do you happen to know if the bell curve is overall, or in relation to specific discipline groupings?
cheers,
Jon

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From: Andrew Murphie [mailto:andrew.murphie at gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 7/07/2008 12:19 PM
To: Jon Stratton
Cc: csaa-forum at lists.cdu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [csaa-forum] ERA rankings

just to reiterate Greg's point, however ... people can try to "save" as many journals they like, but the more that are pushed up, the more that will be pushed down again. There can only be %5 A* and 15% A, including overseas journals ... there is an effort to give journals appropriate recognition, which is of course necessary but itself subject to a haphazard and unpredictable process. But the question of the percentages doesn't really seem to be addressed as yet, and in many ways that is the main game.

best, Andrew

2008/7/7 Jon Stratton <J.Stratton at curtin.edu.au>:

	  Hi Everybody,
	    While on the matter of which journals are ranked high and which low, those people who write about film need to know that (I think I am right in saying) no film journal get higher than a B ranking and most, including Screen, get a C.  Also, for those who write about popular music--and I have already posted this information to the local popular music studies email List--Perfect Beat: The Pacific Journal for Research into Contemporary Music and Popular Culture, running since 1992 and the only Australian-based journal specialising in popular music studies, gets a C and the other relevant journals, such as Popular Music and Society, get a B. 
	Again, I emphasise, please organise submissions.
	cheers,
	Jon    

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	From: csaa-forum-bounces at lists.cdu.edu.au on behalf of Jon Stratton

	Sent: Sun 6/07/2008 6:24 PM
	To: Lelia GREEN; csaa-forum at lists.cdu.edu.au 

	Subject: RE: [csaa-forum] ERA rankings

	  Hi Everybody,
	    Thanks for expanding and reinforcing my email, Leilia.  In the last few days, the dealine has been extended.  I was sent this email:

	Due to the large interest in and the importance of this exercise the ARC is extending the deadline for submissions by three weeks.  Therefore, submissions as part of this consultation process will close COB on Thursday 14 August, 2008, but researchers will be asked (via the "Making Submissions" link on our website http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm <https://email.curtin.edu.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.arc.gov.au/era/submissions_ranking.htm> ) to have their submission material to their institution's ERA Liaison Officer by COB 31 July 2008 to allow time for compilation of your institution's submission.

	cheers,
	Jon  

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	From: Lelia GREEN [mailto:l.green at ecu.edu.au]
	Sent: Sun 6/07/2008 3:45 PM
	To: Jon Stratton; csaa-forum at lists.cdu.edu.au
	Subject: RE: [csaa-forum] ERA rankings

	Dear Jon and all

	Thanks for raising this, Jon.

	In fact, the ARC press release of 12 June indicates that institutions have until 24 July to respond to the draft list. (See below). Institutions will probably have closing dates for internal submissions that are a week or two before this date -- so this is a job for the coming week!

	Sadly, both Cultural Studies journals and Communications journals appear to have suffered as a result of not being clearly aligned with either a Humanities or a Social Sciences focus. In addition to the list of B graded journals in your post can be added the internationally-recognised Australian Journal of Communication (which the Australian Business Deans' Council graded as A), and M/C: A Journal of Media and Culture. The only Australian journal in our field to be recognised as higher than B appears to be Media International Australia (A*). 

	I agree with Jon that this is a matter that should be raised urgently with our University research co-ordinators since it would be inappropriate to categorise all Australian journals in Media, Communications and Cultural Studies (apart from MIA) as publishing "only a few papers of very high quality".

	Further, this discussion and the fact that we had little notice of the outcomes prior to the 12 June indicates that we should work towards a national forum of Humanities and Arts Deans so that we could have had input into the national discussions equivalent to that enjoyed by the Business Deans. (They have a national meeting twice a year to impact upon policy affecting their discipline areas.)

	Thanks again

	Lelia

	Thursday, 12 June 2008

	ARC seeks sector's views on journal rankings for ERA initiative

	The Australian Research Council (ARC) has today launched a consultation period on a draft journal rankings list, one of the indicators that will be used on a discipline-specific basis to evaluate research as part of the Excellence in Research for Australia (ERA) initiative.

	Research outlets are ranked into four tiers (A*, A, B and C) on the basis of the overall quality that each has for a particular discipline.

	ARC Chief Executive Officer, Professor Margaret Sheil said that this is the second phase on the journal rankings.  In late 2007, the four Learned Academies and a number of peak bodies, undertook the initial journal ranking exercise to develop this draft for their relevant disciplines. 

	"More than 19,000 unique peer reviewed journals have been identified to form the draft list of ranked journals.

	"It is worth noting that journals of Australian origin are well represented in the top tiers of the draft rankings.

	"This is an important process to ensure that the higher education and research sectors will have confidence in the rankings that will be used as part of the ERA initiative," Professor Sheil said.

	Submissions will close on Thursday 24 July, 2008.  More information is available from the ARC website: http://www.arc.gov.au/era/indicators.htm <https://staffmail.ecu.edu.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.arc.gov.au/era/indicators.htm>

	The ARC will release the final journal ranking list once all submissions have been considered.

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	From: csaa-forum-bounces at lists.cdu.edu.au on behalf of Jon Stratton
	Sent: Sun 06/07/2008 10:30
	To: csaa-forum at lists.cdu.edu.au
	Subject: [csaa-forum] ERA rankings

	  Hi Everybody,
	      If you haven't already, may I please suggest that you look at the journal rankings that are planned to be used for the federal government's Excellence in Research for Australia (ERA) exercise.  The list of journals and the rankings can be found at:  http://www.arc.gov.au/xls/ERA_Journal_Ranking_Flatfile.xls <https://email.curtin.edu.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.arc.gov.au/xls/ERA_Journal_Ranking_Flatfile.xls>  .  There are four categories, A*, A, B. C.  C is therefore the lowest ranking.  You might particularly want to note that Continuum, which is the only international cultural studies journal based in Australia, and is the CSAA-linked journal, has a B ranking.  This places it well down in importance and means that articles published in it will not be regarded by the ERA exercise as being of as much worth as compared to if the journal are ranked at A* or A.
	       Journal of Intercultural Studies is also ranked as a B, as are Social Identities, and Borderlands.  Third Text is a C as is New Formations.  As a generalisation, it seems to me that journals based in the US or Britain, and journals which tend towards publishing less innovative and less controversial (and this includes political) articles, tend to be given the higher rankings. 
	     At present submissions are being taken for additions to the journal list and for changes in ranking.  All submissions have to be sent through universities.  If you have not been contacted by the R&D area of your university may I suggest that you contact them, find out how to register a submission in your university and do so.  The closing date for submissions is towards the end of July.
	thanks for your time,
	Jon 

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